Sharny interviewed by Mix101 Chrissie Swan

About 10 minutes before my interview with TODAY, Chrissie asked to interview me on curing cravings.  It appears she had an ulterior motive…

After asking me if I thought she was lazy, I get the feeling she didn’t like the answer, so talked over me before cutting my microphone and monologuing about how we were the reason kids were getting bullied.



Somewhere near the end of the interview, they just hung up on me.  We got a few messages from our fans like this:


And then I was told that MixFM had created their very own Meme!

Check it out (you can click on the pic to take you to the post).

By reading through the comments,  there seem to be a lot of people in this “small minority” who listen to that radio station…

Also, “small minority” when did we begin to ignore minority groups?




Anyway, we were luckily able to source a copy of the interview from a station insider, and although I didn’t want to respond, Julius has:



Being fat is not the only reason people get bullied.  People get bullied for eating a salad at work, kids get bullied for not taking “real” food to school (real meaning packaged junk).  Bullies pick on anything that is different.


Now, let’s clear this MASSIVE misconception up.  Once and for all.



“fat people are stupid?”
“fat people are less than?”


We’ve never said that.  We don’t even think it.  We have said that to become obese requires laziness – laziness in eating.  Laziness in nutrition.  Ignore for a moment the percentage of the population who have legitimate medical reasons for being obese, the rest are just lazy.  If I became lazy with my eating, I’d become obese.  it’s not something that is done TO you, it is something that you DO to YOURSELF.


The environment we all live in (all of us) is one that is geared towards obesity.  Everywhere we go, signs tell us to “take more, you deserve it.” Everything in our lives is convenient.  To be healthy requires work.  BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.  Just like work.  The harder you work, the more income you earn.  If you don’t work at all, you’ll become broke.  The harder you work at your health, the healthier you become.  If you don’t do anything about it, you’ll become obese.  Everybody has to make money, and everybody has to work on their health.  If you’re obese it’s because you’ve been lazy with your health, not because you are in some special portion of the population.  Everybody lives with the same temptations, everybody in this country has the same opportunities.  Chrissie (and everyone you’re trying to defend), if you’re not crippled in some way, if you’re not less intelligent, if you’re not a child.  You’ve just been lazy.


And when we say lazy, it doesn’t come with an undertone of cruelty, it is an observation.  Clearly you don’t like to hear it.  If it makes you feel uncomfortable, then that’s your choice.  Neither one of us wants to be mean or nasty, we want the best for you.  Covering your potential with layers of fat, crushing your internal organs is not what’s best for you.  It’s been easy to hide behind the pretence of “bullying,” but by hearing the truth that laziness begets obesity means that you CAN do something about it.  You choose to fight it, or to accept it.  Responsibility.


A 14 hour work day is not a reason to eat more than you need.  It’s an excuse.  We know a lot of people who work longer hours who are not unhealthy.  Not obese.  Because they choose their health over TV.  They choose health over facebook or short term pleasure (junk food).  They spend lots of quality time with their kids playing in the park or going for walks or wrestling on the lounge floor.  To manage a 14 hour work day, family, health and finances takes effort.  But it is effort that is essential.  If you’re too lazy to do that, why not cut back some hours.  Nobody is telling you to work 14 hours.  You choose that.


I do have a question at this point that I’d like you to ponder.  Why have none of your friends confronted you about your health?  Do you intimidate them?  You certainly have a lot of friends, but are they really friends if they allow you to eat yourself to death?  Being obese comes with some MAJOR health risks.


I’m calling THEM out right now.  Chrissie it at a very high risk of dying.  A higher risk of dying of a heart attack than a smoker is of dying of cancer.  What are you all going to be saying at her funeral?  Chrissie Swan is an AMAZING person and we all benefit from having her around.  Seriously, she is funny, intelligent, CARING and beautiful.  I want her to be here a lot longer.  I want her to be there when her kids get married.  Am I a bully for saying so?


We can’t see the inside of a smoker’s lungs.  We can’t see inside the mind of a junkie, we can’t see the destruction of a gambling addict.  We CAN see the result of food addiction.  You tie it to body image, you think it’s about “looking good.”  We don’t.  It’s not about beauty.  We see a lot of beautiful people, covered in a layer of fat.  Eating themselves to death.


This REALLY pisses me off.  Please, separate fat and ugly.  Ugly is opinion.  You can be fat ugly, you can be thin ugly.  Beauty and body composition are NOT related.  We get messages all the time about how ugly we are.  And that’s OK, because ugly or beauty are OPINIONS as long as my wife finds me attractive (her opinion) I’m happy.  Don’t link them together, if someone thinks you are not beautiful because you are fat, that’s their problem.  We’ve NEVER linked fat with ugly.  Fat is unhealthy.  Whether it is ugly or beautiful differs from person to person.


I don’t think it is fair for an obese child to be teased and bullied.  It’s not fair for any child to be bullied.  But once again, being fat is not the only reason kids get bullied, it’s not mutually exclusive.  Red headed kids, a genetic trait, get bullied so much more, listening to the radio, I hear “ranga” thrown around a lot.  That’s radio, that’s not the school yard!  That’s bullying, and having red hair is not a choice, it’s genetic.


So back to obese kids.


You say we are perpetuating bullying in the school yard?  It is an enormous cop out to blame the bullies.  It’s easy to, because a bully is something you can’t control, is easy to blame.  But the bully is not the person to blame for the hurt that happens to an obese kid.  The REAL people to blame for obese children being bullied are the LAZY parents.  LAZY, because they KNOW that the shit they are shovelling into their children’s mouths is making them fat, is making the other kids tease them.  PARENTS are giving it to them, kids can’t afford it themselves.  It’s like giving your child a cigarette then complaining that the people telling you that smoking is bad for you are perpetuating bullying and stigmatising smokers.


Chrissie Swan, you don’t like us, that’s fine.  It’s not our job to make you like us.  It is my job to like myself.  It is Sharny’s job to like herself.  And to stand back and watch you kill yourself makes us not like ourselves.  It is our calling on this planet to reverse this obesity epidemic.  To free beautiful people like yourself from your affliction.  Gluttony leads to obesity.  Obesity will kill you.  Every human is geared toward gluttony unless you do something about it every day.  To not battle your inner glutton is laziness.  Blaming a 14 hour work day for gluttony is laziness.  You’re not a lazy person, you have just been lazy with your health.



If you have an obese kid, or a kid who is heading that way, how are you going to answer them when they are adults and they investigate their food addiction.  “Why am I addicted to junk food.  Who introduced me to it?”  “Why can I never remember running?”


If they look through their photo album and see that they were fat as kids, photos of them eating cupcakes and maccas instead of playing on the swings, will they not resent you?


Being a parent is tough, bringing up kids in a world of temptation is tough, but you chose to be a parent.


Obesity doesn’t happen overnight, it is a gradual process.  Every single day you have to get up and make a choice, we all do.  Either you are going to ignore your deteriorating health, your expanding waist line, your wheezing breath, or you are going to do something about it.


Chrissie Swan, you are obese, you are well loved and you are influential and you CARE.  Put your ego to the side a minute and think about how you are using your influence.  Are you caring about the right thing?  Overeating is the same as smoking.  You are defending overeaters, and making it OK.  Stop doing it.  Stop allowing people to think it is OK to overeat.  It’s not OK to overeat, just like it is not OK to smoke.  You’re perpetuating an ideal that an obese person can be healthy.


The real danger to you, to me, to society is allowing people to believe that they are their fat.  I would like you to entertain the idea that maybe instead of defending the fat on a person’s body, defending “fat people,” you help them to see that they are not their fat,  the fat that they carry around is just an indicator of their past few years.  It is like a parasite, living on the person, it is NOT the person.  Use your influence to make a positive impact to our country; you have it in you.


We’re at war, Chrissie.  You and I.  But I’m not your enemy.  The enemy is out there and inside your head.  It is called temptation.  Greed.  Gluttony.  I’m recruiting you Chrissie, PLEASE.  Australia needs you.


Make people see the truth: You are NOT your fat, you can’t own that.  You are the person underneath.  Stop allowing other people to own their fat.  It’s like a jacket.  A jacket that is killing them, but a jacket that they CAN take off.


PLEASE!!! Stop defending the jacket.  Take yours off, and NEVER let your kids put theirs on.


Free us, Chrissie Swan.  We need you.